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ayrshiretattie



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:08 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Ygraine wrote:
It was the Cabinet Office I had to contact when I received a letter saying "Thank you for your letter to the Queen regarding the nomination of x for a gong". Thing was, I knew I hadn't written any such letter. Someone had forged my signature. They were very helpful when I rang them and explained. I wouldn't have minded quite so much but the original letter had a spelling mistake and that upset me more than anything else!

You usually find gongs are awarded just before retirement to most people. There must be at least a six month lead in once a nomination has been made, which must be accompanied by at least two letters of support. There is usually a system of discrete enquiry to find out if the reasons for giving the gong are justified. Academics will probably be judged on how much money they've raised for their institution, how many books and articles they've published and whether they've done any groundbreaking research. Whether they're a good teacher or all-round wonderful human being is another matter.


Mmmm, yeah, I've since worked that much out.

He is coming up to retirement, he's helluva brainy and inarguably has been pre-eminent in his field. But it still sticks in the craw that the fact that he's a crass arsehole of a human being who has been a complete bastard to others around him is overlooked, like it doesn't matter. It bloody should. Content of their character, and all that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting - how much does one's character count towards public recognition? Many people in history who are looked upon as pillars of society wold probably have been hateful towards someone. Think about Charles Dickens and the relationship with his wife. Think of Dr Maudseley who will be forever considered one of the fathers of modern psychiatry and yet he was quite happy to lock up perfectly healthy women for years, if not the rest of their lives, because their beliefs didn't tie in with their husband's.

Success doesn't seem to rest one iota on someone's morals, only their achievements, no matter how many bloody corpses-either physical or mental, that they've left behind them or people they have crushed whilst walking on top of them to get to where they are. Is the fact that he loves his cat and cares for her meticulously going to count more than the gibbering wrecks he leaves behind in the office? (All this is just by way of example)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been thinking about this. Much as I would like to support the idea of a 'moral' element to such awards, I don't see how it could W***. However unpleasant the person, it may be that their W*** has made a difference, or improved the human condition and that should be recognised. What sort of academic is this craitur? Has his W*** improved life for anyone?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's a prof of Ancient Greek, in a Department of Classics and Ancient History.

God knows I love the Greeks and all they've given us, and wish the continuance of the teaching of all that ... but it just seems awfully ironic that this guy gets gonged by his society when his attitude is hardly conducive to the general Ataraxia & Eudemonia of that society or his fellow man (or woman), annat

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:26 pm    Post subject: Gongs: Reply with quote

Wester's New World Dictionary:
It sits next tae the computer desk and is worth it's weight in gold.
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