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ayrshiretattie

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Does embdy here know if it's possible to officially object to somebody gettin gied an OBE...?

I don't know the first thing about these things.
Fey Hag

Ah think yea micht have tae do a hatchet joab on thir reputation.
SengaMcp

Ye'd huvty write tae HMG at Nummer 10* listin yer objections.

* Ah mebbe wrang but ah hink thurs a oaffice speshully fur nominatins an objectins tae sic awards.
notanimby

Th ereshipient knows well in advance thur gettin a gong, as they ur asked that they will accept it, jist in case sumwan says fek aff tae Betty at indukshun time.

Ah know a coupla people who huv knocked them back, wan evenchooly accepted efter 20+years of being asked if he would accept it. He jist wanted peace
notascot

I know a guy that got a DCM* at W*** on Friday






* Dont Come Monday
ayrshiretattie

SengaMcp wrote:
Ye'd huvty write tae HMG at Nummer 10* listin yer objections.

* Ah mebbe wrang but ah hink thurs a oaffice speshully fur nominatins an objectins tae sic awards.


Thanks Senga - I think that's the kinna thing I may be lookin for. Will investigate.

If this partikler mannie of my unwilling acquaintance gets a gong, then.. then... then I'm the queen of bloody Sheba.

He's an ungallant, ungracious, intemperate, puerile bam of the first wattir.
SengaMcp

Is he a politician?
Neil

Is he a retired leki?
Heidy

Is it gordin fuggin broon? Evil or Very Mad
dosser

Is it Clash?
Fey Hag

Quote:
He's an ungallant, ungracious, intemperate, puerile bam of the first wattir.


Soonds aboot richt fer a Big gong.
ayrshiretattie

He's a hacademic.

Scholar he may be.... as a man he's a f*ckin wanker who doesnae know the meaning of civility.

(In common of course with most senior male hacademics I have met - but this wan takes the biscuit)
Clash

RD2's no that bad is he?
ayrshiretattie

Clash wrote:
RD2's no that bad is he?


Shocked

Artoo is a Henchineer anna chentleman in ma book, before he's any kinna Hacademic.  

The Hacademics of ma acquaintance are mainly among the arts & humanities, i.e. folk who in the real world cannae find their arse wi an atlas, and I'm gettin sick to death of their fushonlessness allthegither.

That this particular eejit is gettin gonged for being no kind of gentleman at all is a right scunner so it is.
SengaMcp

A history of dishonourable medals.

British Museum exhibition: Medals of Dishonour

Mebbe it's wanny these.
Ygraine

It was the Cabinet Office I had to contact when I received a letter saying "Thank you for your letter to the Queen regarding the nomination of x for a gong". Thing was, I knew I hadn't written any such letter. Someone had forged my signature. They were very helpful when I rang them and explained. I wouldn't have minded quite so much but the original letter had a spelling mistake and that upset me more than anything else!

You usually find gongs are awarded just before retirement to most people. There must be at least a six month lead in once a nomination has been made, which must be accompanied by at least two letters of support. There is usually a system of discrete enquiry to find out if the reasons for giving the gong are justified. Academics will probably be judged on how much money they've raised for their institution, how many books and articles they've published and whether they've done any groundbreaking research. Whether they're a good teacher or all-round wonderful human being is another matter.
notanimby

Ygraine wrote:
It was the Cabinet Office I had to contact when I received a letter saying "Thank you for your letter to the Queen regarding the nomination of x for a gong". Thing was, I knew I hadn't written any such letter. Someone had forged my signature. They were very helpful when I rang them and explained. I wouldn't have minded quite so much but the original letter had a spelling mistake and that upset me more than anything else!

You usually find gongs are awarded just before retirement to most people. There must be at least a six month lead in once a nomination has been made, which must be accompanied by at least two letters of support. There is usually a system of discrete enquiry to find out if the reasons for giving the gong are justified. Academics will probably be judged on how much money they've raised for their institution, how many books and articles they've published and whether they've done any groundbreaking research. Whether they're a good teacher or all-round wonderful human being is another matter.


The nominee is also asked if they want it
Ygraine

Notanimby - as your point had already been made, I didn't repeat it.
Heidy

Ah wid say yer chances o gettin him barred ur next tae nil....seein that twat gorbils thick is gettin benightit in the face o a lotta opposition weel whit dae ye expect?
notanimby

Ygraine wrote:
Notanimby - as your point had already been made, I didn't repeat it.


M' apologies ah furgot ah hud sed that already  Sad
ayrshiretattie

Ygraine wrote:
It was the Cabinet Office I had to contact when I received a letter saying "Thank you for your letter to the Queen regarding the nomination of x for a gong". Thing was, I knew I hadn't written any such letter. Someone had forged my signature. They were very helpful when I rang them and explained. I wouldn't have minded quite so much but the original letter had a spelling mistake and that upset me more than anything else!

You usually find gongs are awarded just before retirement to most people. There must be at least a six month lead in once a nomination has been made, which must be accompanied by at least two letters of support. There is usually a system of discrete enquiry to find out if the reasons for giving the gong are justified. Academics will probably be judged on how much money they've raised for their institution, how many books and articles they've published and whether they've done any groundbreaking research. Whether they're a good teacher or all-round wonderful human being is another matter.


Mmmm, yeah, I've since worked that much out.

He is coming up to retirement, he's helluva brainy and inarguably has been pre-eminent in his field. But it still sticks in the craw that the fact that he's a crass arsehole of a human being who has been a complete bastard to others around him is overlooked, like it doesn't matter. It bloody should. Content of their character, and all that.
Ygraine

Interesting - how much does one's character count towards public recognition? Many people in history who are looked upon as pillars of society wold probably have been hateful towards someone. Think about Charles Dickens and the relationship with his wife. Think of Dr Maudseley who will be forever considered one of the fathers of modern psychiatry and yet he was quite happy to lock up perfectly healthy women for years, if not the rest of their lives, because their beliefs didn't tie in with their husband's.

Success doesn't seem to rest one iota on someone's morals, only their achievements, no matter how many bloody corpses-either physical or mental, that they've left behind them or people they have crushed whilst walking on top of them to get to where they are. Is the fact that he loves his cat and cares for her meticulously going to count more than the gibbering wrecks he leaves behind in the office? (All this is just by way of example)
SengaMcp

I've been thinking about this. Much as I would like to support the idea of a 'moral' element to such awards, I don't see how it could W***. However unpleasant the person, it may be that their W*** has made a difference, or improved the human condition and that should be recognised. What sort of academic is this craitur? Has his W*** improved life for anyone?
ayrshiretattie

He's a prof of Ancient Greek, in a Department of Classics and Ancient History.

God knows I love the Greeks and all they've given us, and wish the continuance of the teaching of all that ... but it just seems awfully ironic that this guy gets gonged by his society when his attitude is hardly conducive to the general Ataraxia & Eudemonia of that society or his fellow man (or woman), annat

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swift

Gongs:

Wester's New World Dictionary:
It sits next tae the computer desk and is worth it's weight in gold.
tam

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