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ayrshiretattie



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:21 am    Post subject: Question for Saxy!!  Reply with quote

Can wir resident vet advise at all if you've come across, or if you've heard of, any rumours, suspicions, notions at all at all, of adverse neurological side effects in dogs after using Bob Martin Spot On flea & tick treatment for dogs...? active ingredient permethrin (cis:trans 25:75) 1488mg

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Many thanks in advance for any info....
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weejan



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard this and the res. vet told me not to use any of their products on my cats. I think she's having to wait to get on line in her new home.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you "google" this product, you'll find loads of reports about cats becoming ill after it was applied to them. I couldn't, however, see any reports of dogs being effected the same way.

The problem in cats is probably due to the wash they "wash" themselves. They can reach every part of themselves with their paws and then they lick their paws getting the flea treatment into their mouths.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guid enuff fur ra fur berrin flea riddin shyte machines that they ur ...speshullie ra wans that crap in yer gerdin...ony ither hints and tricks fur ra disposil o aforesais shyte machines..i.e. moggs an dugs can be supplied on demand! Rolling Eyes
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ayrshiretattie



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heidy wrote:
Guid enuff fur ra fur berrin flea riddin shyte machines that they ur ...speshullie ra wans that crap in yer gerdin...ony ither hints and tricks fur ra disposil o aforesais shyte machines..i.e. moggs an dugs can be supplied on demand! Rolling Eyes

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Still fighting the sair fight, heidy?

Get a water pistol, sit by the windae. Every time one of the feline fiends comes into yer patch, gie it a squirt. Wi vinegar!!

Hours of endless fun.

I got a bad bite off wir dug (4 years old) a few hours after he got treated with this stuff. It wasn't an accident, he meant it. Came in a flash, totally out of the blue, and he's never come anywhere close to even thinking about being aggressive to anyone before. Nothing odd had happened that day, I didn't do anything odd or out of the ordinary. I had gied him a bit of a brushing, and he quite likes that and was being quite sooky. I finished and sat down on the couch, and he was about to jump up on the couch which he knows fine he's not allowed to do. I told him to get down and that's when he bit me.

He's been checked by the vet to see if he's no well or in pain, and the vet says there's nothing at all wrong with him.

Dunno what to think... but I think I've decided that I'm no going to put permethrin insecticide ("acts on nerve cell membranes and interrupts signals travelling between the brain and the muscles") Shocked , i.e. SpotOn, freely & cheaply available in the shops and supermarkets, anywhere near the dug again.

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weejan



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

have a look at www.vetuk.co.uk
their prices are good and they send you special offers by email  (except they seem to think that I own a horse).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If yer shyte machine or moggie hus fleas then ye kin cure thum by feedin aforesais flea hotels wi creosote or antifreeze or paracetamol or a murcan med cawed tylanol  they aw wirk permanintlie tae an they hiv ra addit attraction o gettin rid o the main carriers annaw..... Twisted Evil
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ayrshiretattie



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heidie, yoo iz doin it rong.
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ayrshiretattie



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weejan wrote:
have a look at www.vetuk.co.uk
their prices are good and they send you special offers by email  (except they seem to think that I own a horse).


?? weejan, my point is - what I've been sayin - is I'm no putting these here nerve poisons - any of them - oan the dug, ever ever again, ever.

Am I missing something? - What's in your link that you are you trying to tell me?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they sell Frontline which is the product that vets use, that's all I was saying.
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ayrshiretattie



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, ta.

I don't like the look of that stuff either - active ingredient fipronil, another nerve agent... "Fipronil is a broad spectrum insecticide that disrupts the insect central nervous system" Shocked
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Saxy



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Och shite, sorry fur disappearin on this one.

Top tip - if it says "Bob Martins" on it, don't buy it. I would outlaw them.

Frontline is indeed a nerve agent but it is safe for dogs and cats, it is too large to cross the necessary barriers. I am happy enough with it to use it on my own dog(s) and regularly spray it on my own hands when doing puppies and so on at W***. It's not good for rabbits though.

I have put down cats who have had the poisoning you were talking about, one a young kitten. It is horrific. That's the sort of stuff that makes vets cry.


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