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dosser



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:49 pm    Post subject: Addiction  Reply with quote

I aye assumed that, whatever yer addiction micht be - booze, baccy, illegal stuff - stopping (or being made tae stop) wuild be guid fer ye.

A wee whiles back, Ah wiz talkin' tae somewan aboot his younger brither whit is seriously alcoholic. He's so bad that he has to carry a card warning that he must not be deprived of alcohol in any circumstances. That's so that, if he winds-up in police cells or in hospital, ra polis or ra doacturs wull phone a certain place fur instructions.

He even gets additional benefits so that he can buy booze. (No, Ah didnae believe that bit at furst either, but Ah've checked and, I assure yiz, it is indeed possible to get such additional benefits tae buy booze, if yer far enough gone.)

But here's mah question. If this poor bugger wiz tae be deprived o' booze in some mental hospital or sumthin'. whit wuild happen tae him? He'd get DT's for sure, but they'd pass (Ah think). But, is it possible tae get so addicted tae something that stoppin' wuild herm or even kill ye?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Addiction Reply with quote

dosser wrote:
I aye assumed that, whatever yer addiction micht be - booze, baccy, illegal stuff - stopping (or being made tae stop) wuild be guid fer ye.

A wee whiles back, Ah wiz talkin' tae somewan aboot his younger brither whit is seriously alcoholic. He's so bad that he has to carry a card warning that he must not be deprived of alcohol in any circumstances. That's so that, if he winds-up in police cells or in hospital, ra polis or ra doacturs wull phone a certain place fur instructions.

He even gets additional benefits so that he can buy booze. (No, Ah didnae believe that bit at furst either, but Ah've checked and, I assure yiz, it is indeed possible to get such additional benefits tae buy booze, if yer far enough gone.)

But here's mah question. If this poor bugger wiz tae be deprived o' booze in some mental hospital or sumthin'. whit wuild happen tae him? He'd get DT's for sure, but they'd pass (Ah think). But, is it possible tae get so addicted tae something that stoppin' wuild herm or even kill ye?


A freend a mines wife wuz a sherious alkyholik, ra type that hud ra bottles inra washin machine etc.
Anyways when she  came affra drink( she could drink a dozen cans of superlager in a night) she startit huvvin blakoots, ra docturs tellt her that if she kept comin affra drink suddenly they would continue, so she kept herself constantly pished frae then on as it wiz easier tae cope wae than ra blakoots. The also tellt her if she didnae get herself affra drink it would kill her and it did aboot 18 months later
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The saddest bit aboot thon is that it sounds like ra pare wummin wis makin' a - possibly heroic, wuildnae be too strong a adjective - effort tae sort hursel' oot, but wisnae gettin' the richt or enough support.

But mah question remains unanswered. If she wiz in the richt place and gettin' help so ra backoots wuildnae result in her injurin' hursel', wuild suddenly stoapin' hae done her any lastin' herm?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my understanding Dosser; there are those with a weak heart that withdrawal  from drugs or alcohol can kill.
They have to be weaned under strict medical supervision & not even that always works.
These people are one in several million, but like the one who dies the first time they take alcohol, they exist.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dosser wrote:
The saddest bit aboot thon is that it sounds like ra pare wummin wis makin' a - possibly heroic, wuildnae be too strong a adjective - effort tae sort hursel' oot, but wisnae gettin' the richt or enough support.

But mah question remains unanswered. If she wiz in the richt place and gettin' help so ra backoots wuildnae result in her injurin' hursel', wuild suddenly stoapin' hae done her any lastin' herm?


Suddenly stoppin drinkin would huv done her brain damage, she hudtae be weened affra drink tae get herself fixed.

She hud plenty of support frae family and freends alike, but she wisnae interestit, blakkoots wurra culminashun of aboot 20 years bevvyin

Real shame as she hud everythin goin fur her, bonny lookin wummin tae
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Saxy



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Main problem with sudden withdrawal of the type you are talking about is fits. Full blown epileptic type fits, and what happens is that you overheat and cook your brain, or like Fey says, your heart gives out. However it is entirely possible for people in that position to undergo a supervised medical detox, usually using librium but diazepam also works alongside vit B replacements. The problem is afterwards maintaining sobriety - most of the medical facilities aren't good at putting in place the necessary things. Shame, it would save a lot of money and heartache, not to mention lives. If they were actually interested in recovery and steered patients towards it then many of the excuses would start to slip away - the person you mentioned will likely never get clean and sober because they now feel justified in continuing.

I am in discussions with an MSP about what we can do to increase the drive towards recovery rather than babysitting the disasters. You don't want to know the stuff I've seen in Cornton Vale. One of the big problems is that lots of people think they know about addiction. They don't.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saxy wrote:
You don't want to know the stuff I've seen in Cornton Vale. .


Whit ye doin' in Cornton Vale???
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ever one for the quick reply, me.

Mentoring really. Showin folk there's another way. No tellin them, showin them. 4 Years I went nearly every week. Eh learned a lot. Miss it sometimes but dinna miss the heartache.


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